Marvel’s The Avengers and The Dark Knight: Bitter rivals or benchmarks in comic book media?
The Avengers and The Dark Knight: two movies that have set the world on fire when it comes to comic book movies.
The Dark Knight acted as a sequel to a re-telling of the
Batman story in film and, in turn, took the world by force with a captivating
story, and compelling characters, acted out masterfully by an all-star cast. Yet, the driving force of the movie was none
other than the villain of the movie, Batman’s most iconic archenemy, The Joker,
played excellently by Heath Ledger. This
would be Heath Ledger’s final role before his untimely death, but if he had to
end his career on a high note, this was it.
Not only did he prove to be one of the best iterations of the Joker, if
not the best (Jack Nicholson and Mark Hamill still hold a great place in my and
other hearts), but the movie’s characters all gelled with his and Batman’s
characters very well. Oh, and the movie
did draw some of its adaptations almost specifically from the graphic novel,
Batman: the Long Halloween, which stands as one of the best crafted stories in
Batman’s legacy. However, in my view,
what makes this movie excellent is not so much their attention to comic book
detail. I believe this movie works
exceptionally well because if you were to remove the comic book aspects from
the film, the film still stands well as an ordinary film. I love the depth in story and ideas that are
postulated by the film as well. It
really makes you think. Sometimes,
there are individuals that just do bad things for the sake of watching chaos. If so, how do you stop these people? If you are the hero, how long can you remain
that hero until you are seen as otherwise?
Will people literally turn to wrongdoing and chaos if things look very
grim? What sacrifice would you make to
do what’s right, even if it means forsaking your principles for a short time?
It is a great film first, and a great comic book film second. In a way, it transcends the comic book movie
genre.
Marvel’s The Avengers acts an all-encompassing sequel,
taking the exploits and developments of the heroes of 5 different Marvel films
and puts them all together in one adventure, combining their efforts for a
greater cause. This is the very first
Marvel team-up film, in the sense that it’s the first time in history that
stars of other comic book films appear together in the same film to a large
capacity. I don’t count X-men because
the X-men themselves are a team. This
film took five films under Paramount pictures and Marvel Studios and continued
them in one big film about how their abilities and exploits cross over and play
out together. This movie works on many
levels to say the least. For starters,
it feels and looks like an actual comic book that has come to life. Many comic movies try to be something other
than the subject matter as a marketing ploy or because the developers don’t
really care for the comic book itself, but about other things. Joss Whedon, like Christopher Nolan, treats
this exactly how you’d read it in a comic book.
While Nolan took a different path with TDK, Whedon played it by the book
and doesn’t miss a beat. Another winning
point for this movie is that it has charm, and lots of it. It makes you feel good about being a part of
the experience. It’s not stiff, stuffy,
or overly serious. It has a nice touch
to it that makes it joyful to watch it and be a part of it. But, I think the biggest point as to where it
works is that it gives every character something to do. There’s a definite balance between the
characters and their usefulness. You don’t
see too little or too much of one or another person. There’s a perfect synchronicity between
everyone involved. You know what each
person does, and why it works in each situation. This is helpful in part due to the fact that
the main players have had movies released and made before this movie, giving
you all the back story and character development on a singular level that you
need to go into the movie. And, even if
you didn’t see them, the movie gives you a quick primer on what these people are
all about as the focus is what these characters are about and seeing if they
can work together. There isn’t as much
depth, thought-wise, as in TDK, but there doesn’t need to be. Only one idea comes to mind: can people who have been used to solving
problems alone with their amazing abilities co-exist as a team when it is most
necessary? That’s all you need. Not every comic book film has to be that thought-provoking,
really, as not all comics are. Maybe all that is needed is a great story about good versus evil without having to delve too
deep into the human person or psyche.
Now, if you were to say that this is a just a “big, dumb, action movie
as a comic book film”, you’d be right, but, you’d be wrong. It’s not dumb, in any sense, for even though
there are some plot holes, as in most films, there is a flow, necessity, and
structure to any and everything that happens. Take that, Transformers!
Now, I could go on and on about both films, but the reason for this blog is not to fully dissect each film but to postulate an interesting question. There is no doubt that both films were enormously successful. On a domestic level, both movies have made the most money for any and all comic book films and are both within the top 10 most grossing domestic films. On a worldwide level, The Avengers is within the top 10 with The Dark Knight about 6 places after it. Albeit both are relatively high, one would say that TDK’s success is the reason why The Avengers is succeeding, as both movies can be seen as the benchmark of how a comic book movie should be. However, The Dark Knight is vastly different on many levels when compared to the Avengers. One movie is about a group of people while one is about a single hero. One is more thought provoking while the other is a general action film that doesn’t need much thought, but gets that same level of care as the other when it comes to attention to detail and development, so it’s not just some throwaway movie full of flash and style, but no substance (like Battleship). However, I distinctly remember The Dark Knight being successful and amazing as a film that various film developers considered looking to it as a means to make other comic book films, as well as other adaptations, specifically video games. People thought a “grim, gritty, more realistic” approach was what was needed for future adaptations. The problem: not all adaptations work that way, or should. They tried to do this with Mortal Kombat, and while a bevy of people initially appreciated the idea of Scorpion being a detective working with Sonya and Jax, a la Law and Order, other purists cried foul, and wisely so. In the end, when the final product came to pass, it remained closely ingrained with its original story. It was received rather positively, but not completely. Thank goodness for the release of The Avengers as it showed people that you don’t have to be like The Dark Knight to have a successful adaptation, even if TDK did use the “dark” approach and used it well. This begs the question or questions. As both movies go in two different directions when it comes to adaptations, both can be seen as benchmarks in comic book movie adaptation. However, do they really need to be compared as to which is better? My answer: no. They are both good for different reasons and with different motifs. Having said that, with The Avengers pulling away in films, and the third Batman movie looming, one has to wonder: can it be possible that the movies aren’t ultimately compared? And if not, which path will Hollywood follow suit with? Will we get comic movies that are only dark and dreary, trying to provoke thought when they might not need to, or will we get action-filled, charming, moment-by-moment character pieces that draw on well-placed action and charm and not a lot of thought? Will we get more Batman and less Avengers, or vice versa? I really hope this isn’t the case.
This is actually very reminiscent to the comic book industry
in the late 1980s and early to mid-1990s.
Alan Moore and Frank Miller created two graphic novels that stand as two
significant forms of literature, one of which was adapted into film. The novels were Watchmen and The Dark Knight
Returns, respectively. They received
tremendous praise in and out of the comic book industry to the effect where the
industry had been served notice in a way.
The game had to be stepped up.
However, the message sent by these comics was missed, if not by a large
margin. People thought these comics were
successful because they were more adult-themed, dark, gritty, and violent. They failed to see that they were good
because of those things along with the fact that they were well-written, and
very introspective, like The Dark Knight.
What came of that were a more darkened style in popular comics, the
introduction of dark characters, and some changes that may or may not have been
well-received. I can remember just how
mad, in hindsight or not, people were with the inclusion of Venom to Spider
Man. Then, there was the advent of
artists that took this dark and edgy style and made it their bread-and-butter
in comic book creation. I’m talking Todd
McFarlane, Jim Lee, Rob Liefeld, and the like.
They would go on to bankroll their careers during this era and became very
rich, to the point where they branched out and created Image comics. But, that’s a whole other topic. The idea here is that they took a provocative
piece of work and, instead of taking all the aspects of its success into play,
took one aspect and milked it for what it was worth, not considering subtext or
substance. But it made money, and even
made life-long comic fans out of most of us.
I wouldn’t put it past Hollywood to attempt the same thing. In fact, they did, or attempted to.
Once seeing the success of The Dark Knight, the idea that a
reboot was needed became very popular.
However, the dark and edgy nature of the film became the focal point because
it worked so well with The Dark Knight.
Yet, they missed the point as to why it was that way. It was a provocative piece of film that was
introspective while dark and edgy. Like
the aforementioned graphic novels, it set a precedent for how great a film can
be as a comic book film. So much so,
that, The Dark Knight’s success was paramount to the addition of more nominees
for Best Picture at the Academy Awards.
Yes, it was done to silence the fans who complained about TDK’s absence,
but in hindsight, it gave comic book movies a great deal of value. Now, if you’re going to make a comic book
film, you can see how a good one is made by looking at The Dark Knight. However, instead of trying to make the movie
gritty, realistic, dark, and edgy, without considering the other aspects of the
film, take the comic book film, stick to the subject matter, treat it with respect
and care to the best of your ability, and you’ll have an awesome film. That’s why The Dark Knight works. They take the subject matter and don’t steer
too far from it, but close enough to make it seem like a Batman film. However, the movie takes cues here and there
to give it a life of its own, like the portrayal of the Joker and Batman’s
reaction to it along with his inner battle to make the right decision about his
vigilantism. However, it would be easy
to miss all of this and focus on the dark aspect only since that is Batman’s
biggest selling point, or at least has become such over the years. Thank goodness for Marvel’s plan to make their
string of movies that lead to The Avengers, starting with Iron Man. That showed that you don’t have to be The
Dark Knight, but if you keep an eye on the subject matter, and do it a modicum
of justice, you’ll have a solid movie for purists and non-fans alike.
That’s the key to the success to The Avengers and The Dark
Knight: embracing the subject matter, treating it with some respect, and not
trying to steer away from what makes the comic work. In other words, bring the comic to life, and
if you have to put a spin on it, do so, but don’t stray from it, at least not so
dramatically that fans will cry foul.
Batman needed a reboot because both Batman Forever and Batman and Robin
were abominable. The characters were
treated horribly, the story was hokey, and the actors didn’t try to make them
any better. Joel Schumacher will never
be seen as a competent director again, if he was seen as one to begin
with. When Batman Begins and The Dark
Knight came into play, the fans rejoiced because the movies returned to form,
and the actors did a great job holding it together. Christopher Nolan could not have been
happier. After the success of X-men and
Spider Man in film, Marvel took to task the creation of their studios for movie
production, in an attempt to not only profit off of it, but to add a more accurate
spin to the movies they are overseeing.
Even though X-men and Spider Man had successful movie franchises, they
are or were still wrought with negatives that caused both franchises to reboot. I’m talking creative differences between the
director and the studio, with or without Marvel in the middle. Both mentioned franchises are owned exclusively
by the studios that were given to them, which gives them carte-blanche to do
whatever they want with their franchises.
This is something Marvel agreed to, and in the end, it didn’t do the
franchises any good as the movie quality dwindled. When Marvel made the decision to get into the
movie making business, they made sure to get whatever franchises they could to
start a closer knit relationship to the movies they make with the stories they are
connected with in the comics, making for a story or cues closer to that in the
comics. This would make some of the more
dedicated fans happy, and in turn, new fans interested. And, as you can see with the results and
reviews, it has worked immensely.
Marvel and DC have two great movies to hang their hats on as
flat-out success stories and could literally use them as a means to attempt any
other film endeavor they choose.
However, if they do, they have to see why each movie succeeded
initially. Both movies gave the fans
compelling moments, amazing scenes, great acting, and something to remember as
they left theaters. While the approaches
are different, the response was very much the same. Now, does this mean every movie should be
another TDK or Avengers? No. All it means is that it’s best to stick with
what brought you to the dance and not try to re-invent the wheel. Superman shouldn’t be dark and gritty, Spider
Man should be making jokes, and the X-men should act as a team with equal
precedence and still have to worry about the more serious issues, and so
on. You have a library of great forms of
character development, stories, and ideas to adapt from in comics. Don’t shy away from it. Embrace it.
Make it your own but remember why it works. Now, it’s time to get my tickets for the
final Dark Knight film under Nolan’s direction and count the days until DC
attempts to “assemble” the other major
super team that comics revere as the mightiest of mighty. Oh, it will happen. You will see black cowl and the red cape next
to the golden lasso, a red blur, and a green ring or arrow in a film
together. It’s just a matter of when.
Great, thought-provoking piece and I couldn't agree more. The studios need to interfere less and allow the creative talent to do their jobs. That's how you get both good films and true adaptations. We're still dealing with all the TDK fallout today. Wonder Woman is a perfect example of both the right and wrong in this. They gave director Patty Jenkins a certain amount of latitude to make a really good standalone (mostly) movie, after the critical failures of BvS and SS. Overall. But, you can still see the imprint of the "dark and gritty" DCCU (no doubt brought on by the success of the Nolan franchise) in that final sequence, which was unfortunately one of the weakest scenes in an otherwise awesome movie. Like you said, at least reflect the spirit of the character (they're not all grim and gritty) and embrace the material;)
ReplyDeleteThanks for the response. It looks like Marvel has the formula down. Here's hoping that DC does the same
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